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Tigers/Big 12 in the NFL

Posted by Phenomenal Smith on September 22nd, 2009 under Football

The League will never be the same.  Two Sundays in and the Tigers have announced their presence with authority in the NFL. The five offensive Tigers combined for 11 receptions for 117 yards and a TD, along with two carries for 22 yards. The five defensive Tigers, not to be outdone, tallied 5 tackles, including a sack, and one forced fumble.  Even Colin Brown rehabbed well.  Domination! 

This performance has inspired me to follow up on an article from yesteryear.  On these pages one year ago I tabled the Big 12’s representatives in the NFL.  The table looked like this*:

TEAMNO. PLAYERS IN NFL - October 2008
Texas36
Nebraska27
Texas A&M21
Kansas State19
Colorada18
Oklahoma State9
Iowa State8
Texas Tech7
Missouri6
Kansas 6
Baylor6

 Ouch!  Times are changing, though.  After tallying the number of Big 12 players in the NFL this year, the table looks like this:

TEAMNO. PLAYERS IN NFL - October 2008NO. PLAYERS IN NFL - September 2009
Texas3639
Nebraska2728
Oklahoma1926
Texas A&M2118
Kansas State1917
Colorado 1815
Missouri 611
Texas Tech711
Oklahoma State911
Iowa State86
Kansas65
Baylor65

That’s better.  You can see that Mizzou, OU, Okie State, UT and Tech all increased their NFL-ness, which makes sense considering that these schools have competed at a higher level the past few years.  For what it’s worth, the Big 12 went from 182 NFL players in ‘08 to 192 this year.  The list looks funny with K-State, CU, and A&M, current doormats, still in the top half.

Sorted by Change:

TEAMNO. PLAYERS IN NFL - October 2008NO. PLAYERS IN NFL - September 2009CHANGE
Oklahoma19267
Missouri 6115
Texas Tech7114
Texas36393
Oklahoma State9112
Nebraska27281
Baylor65-1
Kansas65-1
Iowa State86-2
Kansas State1917-2
Colorado 1815-3
Texas A&M2118-3

This correllates more to current perceptions.  The bottom four have been fairly bad the last several years, while the top four finished atop their divisions just last year.   Does the change in NFL players from one year to the next correllate to wins by Big 12 team?  You’d think.  Just looking at that table, it looks like the change in one year correlates with wins in that year.  One year isn’t much to go on, but it works for this limited purpose.  How about more?  Well, with a sample size caveat still in effect, here’s a stab at that.

TEAMNO. PLAYERS IN NFL - September 2009CHANGEWINS 2006-2008
Oklahoma26734
Texas39332
Missouri 11530
Texas Tech11428
Kansas5-126
Nebraska28123
Oklahoma State11223
Texas A&M18-320
Kansas State17-217
Colorado 15-315
Baylor5-111
Iowa State6-29

Kansas kind of ruins the correllation.  It’s not like I’m running an Apollo mission here – it’s pretty obvious stuff - but in years where NFL-caliber players are suiting up for your team, you’re more likely to win games.  I chose three years because that’s about the average length of an NFLer’s career.  If sorted by six years, which is twice as long and therefore extremely relevant and not at all arbitrary, the list looks like this:

TEAMNO. PLAYERS IN NFL - September 2009CHANGEWINS 2003-2008
Oklahoma26766
Texas39366
Texas Tech11453
Missouri 11550
Nebraska28146
Kansas5-143
Oklahoma State11243
Kansas State17-237
Texas A&M18-336
Colorado 15-335
Iowa State6-223
Baylor5-122
 

Missouri and Tech swap places, as does NU/KU, Okie State/K-State, and ISU/Baylor.   No big shifts.  The correllation does not change much when comparing the single year increase of NFL players and wins over 3 or 6 years. 

What does it all mean?  Well, for our sake, Pinkel has taken a TERRIBLE football program with very little talent and turned it into a top third-tier team in what is largely considered the second best conference.   That, my friends, is amazing work.  And while there is no question that Pinkel has recruited well, the rating services pretty much keep Mizzou in the middle of the pack.  That tells me that Pinkel is a great talent evaluator and developer – he can see potential and help players realize it.  Now, that doesn’t mean the Tigers won’t occassionally trail a MAC team 20-6 late in the third quarter, but it does mean that we Tiger fans should really savor Pinkel’s days at Mizzou.  Let’s not take it for granted.

What does it mean for the rest of the Big 12?  Mangino can coach.  Callahan can’t.  Snyder better start getting that NFL talent back to Manhattan, and quick.  OU and UT aren’t going anywhere.  Okie State and Tech are bettering their talent level, but aren’t making up any ground on the South’s heaviest hitters.  A&M better turn it around fast.  Briles had better figure out how to get some talent to Waco.  Iowa State is screwed.

Just because Mizzou has players in the NFL doesn’t mean they’ll be there next year.  It’s Not For Long, after all.  Hopefully they’ll be able to build on their wildly successful first two weeks.  Hopefully.

What do the numbers mean to you?

*Please note that I used ESPN.com’s numbers last year and I’m using them again this year.  I’m using it this year for consistency’s sake.  ESPN includes players that are on the IR, which means, e.g., the Tigers have 11 representatives instead of the ten you’ve probably read about.  I am comfortable with including the IR players because they’re currently not only under contract, but are untouchable by other teams.  A practice squad player is pulling down a paycheck – about half what a rookie on the IR makes – but can be signed by any other team and placed on its 53 man roster.  That guy is barely on a team at all.

CallKevin at Barking Carnival threw up a bunch of related numbers two weeks ago.  If you haven’t seen it, take a look.

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  1. Same day I publish this, Mizzou loses an NFLer. For now, anyway. Hopefully T-Ruck finds a job elsewhere.

  2. [...] you that before. You just weren’t listening. I’m also always interested in where our former Tigers go to continue their football playing. Combine the two and you get a report on the Tigers, er Tiger, and Big 12 alum who will be suiting [...]

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