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	<title>Comments on: The Curious Case of Chase Daniel (MU-Northwestern PM)</title>
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		<title>By: Atomic Teeth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; QB Chases&#8217; Free Agent Journeys</title>
		<link>http://atomicteeth.fantake.com/2008/12/30/the-curious-case-of-chase-daniel-mu-nu-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>Atomic Teeth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; QB Chases&#8217; Free Agent Journeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 23:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he&#8217;s actually got a pro contract.  That&#8217;s cool.  I was a little rough on him with the Curious Case of Chase Daniel nonsense,* but I do love the guy and everything he did for the Tigers.  Selfishly, I wouldn&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he&#8217;s actually got a pro contract.  That&#8217;s cool.  I was a little rough on him with the Curious Case of Chase Daniel nonsense,* but I do love the guy and everything he did for the Tigers.  Selfishly, I wouldn&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phenomenal Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phenomenal Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just glad &quot;the only guy with a brain&quot; didn&#039;t blame it all on the defense.  As for the O-Coordinator, I&#039;m really looking forward to seeing what Yost can do.  

As far as the Okie State game, I didn&#039;t just leave out the most important details, I left out &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; the details.  

A lot of picks are the result bad hands and routes - if you&#039;re going to compare QBs using the INT stat, you&#039;d have to account for this for every QB.  AT doesn&#039;t give me that kind of resources.  Several of Chase&#039;s 2007 picks were the result of bad hands and routes. Shit happens.  It all evens out in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad &#8220;the only guy with a brain&#8221; didn&#8217;t blame it all on the defense.  As for the O-Coordinator, I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing what Yost can do.  </p>
<p>As far as the Okie State game, I didn&#8217;t just leave out the most important details, I left out <i>all</i> the details.  </p>
<p>A lot of picks are the result bad hands and routes &#8211; if you&#8217;re going to compare QBs using the INT stat, you&#8217;d have to account for this for every QB.  AT doesn&#8217;t give me that kind of resources.  Several of Chase&#8217;s 2007 picks were the result of bad hands and routes. Shit happens.  It all evens out in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Boo Radley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boo Radley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, did anyone say he cost the team?  I just said I thought he changed after the loss and played with more pressue on himself.  

If you get pressure with 3 guys, then the O line has issues. I would hope as a coordinator that when only 3 guys rush, 5 should be able to handle that number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, did anyone say he cost the team?  I just said I thought he changed after the loss and played with more pressue on himself.  </p>
<p>If you get pressure with 3 guys, then the O line has issues. I would hope as a coordinator that when only 3 guys rush, 5 should be able to handle that number.</p>
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		<title>By: The only one with a brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>The only one with a brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chase Daniel didn&#039;t cost this team you fuckin&#039; idiots.

And it&#039;s convenient for you to leave out the most important details of the Ok State game..
1.  First interception was 100% Danario Alexander&#039;s fault.  bounced off his fucking helmet.  (ps. that accounted for 7 of his picks, bouncing off recievers hands or face)
2.  2nd interception was 95% Jared Perry&#039;s fault for running the wrong route, and making his cut opposite of where he was supposed to be... that only came out weeks later in the paper.
3.  3rd interception was a terrible pass... so bad, that it hit the ground and should have been called incomplete.

Other than that... he compelted 80% of his passes for 400 yards.

it&#039;s a common misconception that he played bad in the game.

And BTW... the reason he went downhill is because of our piece of shit O-Coordinator... Ok State figured out how to pressure our line by rushing only 3 or 4 lineman... that means we had 5 receivers going out, covered by 8 or 9 defenders... makes it almost impossible NOT to throw some picks.  And we, of course, neglected the running game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chase Daniel didn&#8217;t cost this team you fuckin&#8217; idiots.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s convenient for you to leave out the most important details of the Ok State game..<br />
1.  First interception was 100% Danario Alexander&#8217;s fault.  bounced off his fucking helmet.  (ps. that accounted for 7 of his picks, bouncing off recievers hands or face)<br />
2.  2nd interception was 95% Jared Perry&#8217;s fault for running the wrong route, and making his cut opposite of where he was supposed to be&#8230; that only came out weeks later in the paper.<br />
3.  3rd interception was a terrible pass&#8230; so bad, that it hit the ground and should have been called incomplete.</p>
<p>Other than that&#8230; he compelted 80% of his passes for 400 yards.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a common misconception that he played bad in the game.</p>
<p>And BTW&#8230; the reason he went downhill is because of our piece of shit O-Coordinator&#8230; Ok State figured out how to pressure our line by rushing only 3 or 4 lineman&#8230; that means we had 5 receivers going out, covered by 8 or 9 defenders&#8230; makes it almost impossible NOT to throw some picks.  And we, of course, neglected the running game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally whiffed on predicting this year.  I was concerned about o-line and punter, thought the secondary would be a huge strength.  Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally whiffed on predicting this year.  I was concerned about o-line and punter, thought the secondary would be a huge strength.  Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the o-line was pretty clearly bettert this year than last, subjectively.  I think Barnes is an upgrade at center, Gregory is going to go to the NFL, and Fisher is the most talented young tackle we&#039;ve had in a long time. Also, Wuebbels ended up beating out (sort of) Madison this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the o-line was pretty clearly bettert this year than last, subjectively.  I think Barnes is an upgrade at center, Gregory is going to go to the NFL, and Fisher is the most talented young tackle we&#8217;ve had in a long time. Also, Wuebbels ended up beating out (sort of) Madison this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenomenal Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phenomenal Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But that still isn&#039;t a complaint about the spread offense, that&#039;s a complaint about the level of talent.  If we had elite talent all over the place and ran the spread we&#039;d be like Florida in the title game.  If we had elite talent all over the place and ran a pro style offense, maybe we&#039;d be in a BCS game too like USC.  

Great speed does not neutralize the spread.  It neutralizes less than elite talent.  Doesn&#039;t matter what offense if on the other side.

I was using conference schedule stats.  This year we played OSU, OU, and UT.  Last year it was TT and OU twice.  Not sure it was much tougher last year.  

I just didn&#039;t see much to make me think the O-line was any different from a year ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that still isn&#8217;t a complaint about the spread offense, that&#8217;s a complaint about the level of talent.  If we had elite talent all over the place and ran the spread we&#8217;d be like Florida in the title game.  If we had elite talent all over the place and ran a pro style offense, maybe we&#8217;d be in a BCS game too like USC.  </p>
<p>Great speed does not neutralize the spread.  It neutralizes less than elite talent.  Doesn&#8217;t matter what offense if on the other side.</p>
<p>I was using conference schedule stats.  This year we played OSU, OU, and UT.  Last year it was TT and OU twice.  Not sure it was much tougher last year.  </p>
<p>I just didn&#8217;t see much to make me think the O-line was any different from a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Boo Radley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boo Radley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s my point though Phenom.  I don&#039;t think a spread team with lesser talent can consistently beat a great team, and that is the problem to me. Does it make them competitive? Yes it has made us competitive the last 4 years.  But, look at the games where TTU and MU have struggled the last few years..OU and UT. Those are elite teams, but you get the point. Great speed neutralizes a spread.  Stoops and venables always said that if we had a running game, it would have benn much harder to stop us. It makes you competitve, but not elite unless you have eltie talent all over the offense. I am looking at it from a championship standpoint, not just 8-10 wins a year.  I am happy with that, just making the point as to an ultimate goal.  

I think the yards per carry and tackles for loss has a lot more to do with Washington not losing yards the way Temple did on seemingly half his runs.  I would also suggest the schedule was much tougher last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s my point though Phenom.  I don&#8217;t think a spread team with lesser talent can consistently beat a great team, and that is the problem to me. Does it make them competitive? Yes it has made us competitive the last 4 years.  But, look at the games where TTU and MU have struggled the last few years..OU and UT. Those are elite teams, but you get the point. Great speed neutralizes a spread.  Stoops and venables always said that if we had a running game, it would have benn much harder to stop us. It makes you competitve, but not elite unless you have eltie talent all over the offense. I am looking at it from a championship standpoint, not just 8-10 wins a year.  I am happy with that, just making the point as to an ultimate goal.  </p>
<p>I think the yards per carry and tackles for loss has a lot more to do with Washington not losing yards the way Temple did on seemingly half his runs.  I would also suggest the schedule was much tougher last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Pink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear there is a new offense called the split T that the Tigers should look into.  I  don&#039;t think anyone will know how to defend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear there is a new offense called the split T that the Tigers should look into.  I  don&#8217;t think anyone will know how to defend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenomenal Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phenomenal Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My criticism of the spread is that defense with a lot of talent and speed can eliminate the advantage the spread is suppose to create: get playmakers the ball in space. &lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s an unfair criticism of the spread.  The spread actually gives a team with lesser talent a fighting chance.  A &quot;defense with a lot of talent and speed&quot; relative to its opponent will stop any type of offense - throw in good coaching and the offense will struggle.  The spread has, if anything, leveled the playing field.  Defenses will catch up, but probably not for another three to five years.

I also think our offensive line was just as good, if not better, in &#039;08.  The yards/carry skyrocketed in conference play from 3.88 to 4.92.  Over a yard more!  That&#039;s good line play, in addition to a better running back.  

Also, Mizzou allowed fewer sacks in conference play in &#039;08 - 1.44/game - than in &#039;07 - 1.67/game.  Tackles for loss allowed - &#039;08 it was 5.33/game, &#039;07 it was 6.83 (second worst in conference).

Plenty of teams got pressure on Chase in &#039;07 - he was just &lt;b&gt;much&lt;/b&gt; better at dealing with it then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My criticism of the spread is that defense with a lot of talent and speed can eliminate the advantage the spread is suppose to create: get playmakers the ball in space. </i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s an unfair criticism of the spread.  The spread actually gives a team with lesser talent a fighting chance.  A &#8220;defense with a lot of talent and speed&#8221; relative to its opponent will stop any type of offense &#8211; throw in good coaching and the offense will struggle.  The spread has, if anything, leveled the playing field.  Defenses will catch up, but probably not for another three to five years.</p>
<p>I also think our offensive line was just as good, if not better, in &#8216;08.  The yards/carry skyrocketed in conference play from 3.88 to 4.92.  Over a yard more!  That&#8217;s good line play, in addition to a better running back.  </p>
<p>Also, Mizzou allowed fewer sacks in conference play in &#8216;08 &#8211; 1.44/game &#8211; than in &#8216;07 &#8211; 1.67/game.  Tackles for loss allowed &#8211; &#8216;08 it was 5.33/game, &#8216;07 it was 6.83 (second worst in conference).</p>
<p>Plenty of teams got pressure on Chase in &#8216;07 &#8211; he was just <b>much</b> better at dealing with it then.</p>
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