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KU sucks! Right? Please tell me that’s right…

Posted by Phenomenal Smith on November 23rd, 2008 under Football

The Jayhawks are 6-5 this year, a damn sight worse than their 12-1 run last season.  They must really suck.  Their one loss in ‘07 came to the Tigers, and while the margin of victory was only 8 points, it felt like more and there was little question which team was superior.  The Tigers are essentially the same team they were in ‘07.  Ergo, the Tigers will destroy the Jayhawks.  Right?   

When I’m emotionally invested in anything (it’s happened three times in my life), I spend a lot of time envisioning awful scenarios preparing myself for the worst.  I’m all-in with the Tigers.  The Tigers are my sun, they’re my rain, they make my life this foolish game.  Any betrayal of this love…. well, if KU wins on Saturday, it’s going to hurt.


I am college football and this is Phenomenal’s heart!

So, can the Tigers lose to KU?  I’m afraid it’s possible.  The common perception is that KU is down this year compared to last year, and I am not so sure that’s true.  KU fans will tell you its all about the difficult schedule, and I’m sure there’s some truth to that.  I’d say the perception that this year’s team is down is because of its ultra-easy schedule in ‘07.  KU is getting its comeuppance for wrongfully leaping the Tigers for BCS privileges.  When you sell your soul (and whatever else Perkins had to offer) for an Orange Bowl, you get the Sooners, Longhorns, and Raiders in return.  Ha.

There should be a way we can slice the numbers to get an idea of whether this year’s team is as inferior to last year’s model as the records suggest.  I may not know the right way, but I’ve sliced numbers nonetheless.  Let’s compare KU’s ‘07 and ‘08 offenses.

KU OFFENSE (Conf play)

ORANGE BOWL YEAR INSIGHT BOWL YEAR
Scoring Offense 39.8(1) 30.1(7)
Yards/Play 6.0(5) 5.9(7)
Yards/Pass Attempt 7.4(7) 7.9(7)
3rd Down Conversion 43.22(6) 40.91(8)

 You’ll recognize these as the flipside stats Muschamp has deemed important, so I thought they’d work well in this context (I thought about asking Greg Davis which stats mattered for his offense, but he’s an idiot).  The second number is conference rank.  If you’re wondering where the red zone conversion number are, rest assured, there is no nefarious plot afoot to skew the figures. 

Last year’s offense wasn’t elite, even with the points scored.  In yards/play, yards/pass attempt, and 3rd down conversions, KU was in the middle of the conference, just like this year.   The drop in points scored is fairly significant, which I think can be attributed to last year’s sky-high turnover margin v. this year’s less than 0 effort. 

KU fans are probably thinking the years aren’t comparable given the UT/OU/TT portion of the ‘08 schedule.  Let’s back out the South games from each year.

KU OFFENSE (v. North)

ORANGE BOWL YEAR INSIGHT BOWL YEAR
Scoring Offense 39.6(1) 38.8(5)
Yards/Play 6.0(5) 6.3(6)
Yards/Pass Attempt 7.8(7) 9.3(3)
3rd Down Conversion 49%(4) 44%(7)

To include red zone conversions I would have had to comb through drive charts, and frankly, I don’t get paid enough for that.  Also, the rankings here are where KU would have ranked in the conference with these numbers. 

KU’s offensive numbers for ‘07 and ‘08 are comparable when removing the South.  Still mostly stuck in the middle.  In ‘07, KU had an okay offensive attack and in ‘08 it’s more of the same.  Removing the three South teams has improved KU’s ‘08 numbers, but they still aren’t among the league’s elite.   Just like last year’s team.

Here are the defense numbers.

KU DEFENSE (Conf play)

ORANGE BOWL YEAR INSIGHT BOWL YEAR
Scoring Defense 21.1(2) 36.6 (9)
Yards/Play 5.0(1) 5.8(6)
Yards/Pass Attempt 6.1(1) 7.4(6)
3rd Down Conversion 33.3(1) 40.51(7)
Turnover Margin 1.88(1) -.14(8)

KU’s defense in ‘07 appeared to be pretty damn elite.  No question about it.  This year’s defense looks to be pretty damn low to middle class.  But what happens when you remove the South teams from each season?

KU DEFENSE (v. North)

ORANGE BOWL YEAR INSIGHT BOWL YEAR
Scoring Defense 22.4(3) 28.3(5)
Yards/Play 5.1(3) 4.8(1)
Yards/Pass Attempt 6.6(4) 7.0(2)
3rd Down Conversion 36%(1) 39%(3)
Turnover Margin 1.7(1) 2.0(1)

Removing the South from each year creates two very comparable and effective defenses.  Playing the dredges of the South in ‘07 inflated the appearance of dominance of that defense, while playing the stars of the South in ‘08 overstates the ineptitude. 

Before I conclude that this KU is roughly the same as last year’s, there are at least two issues I have with the comparisons above (yes, I’ve turned a critical eye to my own work).  First, it sure seems that this year’s North is less competitive than last year’s, making the numbers that appear to equalize KU’s years suspect.  CU, KSU, and ISU have regressed, while only NU has improved.  Second, last year’s North numbers include the game against Mighty Viking Warrior Mizzou.  Seriously, with 3/4 of the games against CU, KSU, and ISU, it’d be hard for a good defense not to be #1 in every category. 

In short, this KU team is similar to last year’s team – more similar than the records would have you believe.   I think it’s fair to say the KU offense has taken a half step back, and  the defense maybe two.  While the ‘07 Tigers probably would have beaten the Orange Bowl Jayhawks 7 out of 10 times, the ‘08 Tigers are likely to beat this year’s version 8 out of 10. 

That’s a 20% chance at total heartbreak.  Too good a chance to permit much sleep this week….

For Part II, please click here.

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11 Responses

  1. Professor Van Nostrand said:

    November 24th, 2008 at 9:08 am

    Two steps back for the KU defense can be summed up in two words: Collins Talib

  2. Not to be a dick, but Collins played right tackle. You probably mean McClinton. Losing Talib and McClinton didn’t help, but neither did losing Bill Young.

  3. Plaudits. I think this is exactly right, and I’ll have more to add on the geeky numbers side of things soon.

    One thing I’d like to discuss, and it is probably worthy of its own post, is this: The mental side of Big 12 games is really damn important, and I’m afraid it could favor KU in this game.

    I felt confident that OU was going to destroy TT because that felt like a game that Stoops would have no trouble getting max effort from everyone. At home, 2 weeks for the players to be blitzed with hype about Texas Tech, a clear road to paydirt for OU, motivation to pour it on. It was all there.

    Similarly, the Tiger’s game earlier this year in Texas looked like a bear trap for the Tigers.

    I’m afraid that the KU game could set up as a trap for us. Our fans, and likely our players, think that KU is much worse this year. The game is not for the north title, and the “bigger” game looms the next week. And KU, with Reesing and the receiving corps always has a puncher’s chance.

    The good news is that it is almost impossible to picture the team not being focused on KU in Arrowhead with 50,000 screaming Missouri fans. As long as the team is focused, we should be in good shape.

  4. Yeah, I would say losing Bill Young was the biggest step back. There was some perception last year that KU had an incredible linebacking corps. KU has 3 dudes at LB that play good assignment football and aren’t athletic enough to play in the NFL. Sort of like having 3 Brock Christophers. That isn’t a bad thing, but it isn’t a dominating strength.

  5. Mizzou will win this game decisively.

  6. Roberto Frankfurter said:

    November 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    I’m with Baby Joe on this one.

    Also, if there was an upside for the Tigers that OU beat TT, I think it will help the Tigers focus more on KU and less on the unknown Ship opponent. OU/OSU game isn’t until after KU game is over so the players can watch the game after in the bars instead of before in the hotel room.

  7. “And KU, with Reesing and the receiving corps always has a puncher’s chance.”

    Way too much respect. KU has a good scheme but not much talent. I think I could cover Kerry Meier. And, they have a white tailback.

  8. I’ve been very impressed with Reesing’s ability to improvise, and with Briscoe in general.

    To be clear, I don’t think we are going to lose, and I would pick us to cover up to about -18. But in this game, as compared to CU, ISU and KSU, we have a real live chance to lose. And I think everyone is not properly evaluating the mental aspect of the matchup. This is KU’s season, whereas we have something on the immediate horizon that is arguably more important.

    In the end, if we are focused, we win easily. If we make enough miscues, we can lose this one.

    I love predictions like that. I’m guaranteed to be correct.

  9. [...] this week I penned a little something I called KU Sucks! something subtitle, etc.  It got rave reviews and I hear the folks at Pulitzer are poking around [...]

  10. Nice research, good piece. Stats aside, the teams are plenty different. But as you correctly point out, you can’t really overestimate the impact it has to replace OSU, Baylor & A&M with the arguably 3 of the 5 best teams in the nation.

  11. Sheriff Blalock said:

    December 1st, 2008 at 10:48 am

    “Way too much respect. KU has a good scheme but not much talent. I think I could cover Kerry Meier. And, they have a white tailback.”

    We now know that Baby Joe is not Justin Garrett.

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