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Posted by Phenomenal Smith on November 17th, 2008 under Football
Last week after seeing that College Football News had Mizzou projected to the Sun Bowl and NU to the Alamo Bowl, I sent a sternly worded email to their writers demanding a retraction, or at least, suggesting they give the bowl scenario some real thought. Well, they listened! And how!
New projections have Mizzou going to the Cotton Bowl to take on LSU. Awesome. OU is off to the BCS Title Game to take on the Gators and UT gets Fiesta. Okie State to the Holiday Bowl. NU to Alamo. And, to the Sun Bowl? How about Texas Tech! Yes, CFN really screwed their thinking caps on tight to come up with a scenario where the Sooners, Longhorns, Tigers, Cowboys, and Huskers are picked ahead of the undefeated Red Raiders.
Readers, please suggest a scenario where that’s possible. I’m at a complete loss.
Euclid said:
November 17th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Crap like this is why I am inspired to do a bowl projection that has some real thought put into it. These guys put very little thought into these projections.
Gene Claude said:
November 17th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Pretty nuts.
There are three giant leaps of nonsense. (1) Cotton taking Mizzou over TT; (2) Cotton taking Mizzou over OSU and (3) Holiday and Alamo taking OSU and Nebraska over TT.
This would only make sense if TT had lost to OSU.
I really wish it were so.
Gene Claude said:
November 17th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
The only think I can figure is that they project Mizzou to kill KU, play OU tight, and TT’s balloon to really pop if OU kills them. I could see us getting selected ahead of OSU, I guess, for the Cotton.
I just see no way TT falls below Cotton now.
Phenomenal Smith said:
November 17th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Here’s how it could happen. This Friday Harrell and Crabtree and six defensive starters are suspended for steroid use – they’re actually arrested as part of a high profile Texas sting operation. The next day TT plays OU and loses 77-0. OU goes on to beat OSU the next weekend 73-0, just after Mizzou beats KU 58-0 (up 52-0 at half and started taking a knee midway through the third quarter). OU plays MU in the Ship and it’s a thriller, ending in an OU win but shrouded in controversy, creating a great deal of sympathy for the MU. The Cotton Bowl picks Mizzou.
Boo Radley said:
November 17th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Why worry? We are going to the Fiesta Bowl after we beat the South Patsy that they serve up to us. Get your sun screen ready.
Gene Claude said:
November 17th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Something like that would do it.
I cannot fathom how the Cotton Bowl passes over a 1 loss TT.
CFN is mailing it in.
Euclid said:
November 17th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
GC referred to the “K-State rule” the other day and defined it as a team that is two games behind another team can’t jump over them in the Big 12 bowl selection process. I don’t know if that rule exists or not, but there is a “K-State rule” in the BCS that requires the top four teams in the BCS be given BCS bowl berths.
I know that some other conferences have the rule that prevents teams from leaping over a team they are 2 games behind. If that rule does in fact exist in the Big 12, it would not be possible for TT to be passed by Nebraska and Oklahoma State (if they lose to OU).
Phenomenal Smith said:
November 18th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
SI’s got its bowl projection with Mizzou going to Alamo to play Northwestern and NU in the Sun Bowl. Stewart Mandel provides justification for some of his selections, which gives me comfort. He seems reasonable – he has TT and UF in the final, so I’m guessing he’s using the Predictatron.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/11/17/bowl-projections-week-12/index.html?eref=si_topstories
HenryJames said:
November 18th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
The Alamo Bowl is a good trip. It’s walking distance from the hotels, bars and restaurants along the River Walk. And San Antonio has the best Tex Mex in the state.
Euclid said:
November 18th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Unfortunately we all have fresh scars from our beat down at the hands of Oklahoma last year. In three short hours our dreams of the national championship game in New Orleans were dashed. I hear the post-tramatic stress syndrome can take years to overcome.
Chet Gristler said:
November 19th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Euc, this is the K-State rule:
5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.
Basically, if you are really, really, really good and get beat in your Championship Game by a rumdum, you still get in.
Gene Claude said:
November 19th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I’m going to go on record guessing Holiday or Gator for Mizzou. In the unlikely event we don’t win the championship, that is.
Phenomenal Smith said:
November 20th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Matter checks in with some bowl knowledge.
http://blogs.columbiatribune.com/football/2008/11/a_closer_look_at_the_bowl_scen.html
He closes with this “comforting” tidbit:
Keep in mind, Big 12 rules guarantee that the loser of the conference championship falls no further than the Insight Bowl, which means if Missouri misses out on the automatic BCS invite, its only options are Cotton, Holiday, Gator, Alamo, Sun and Insight. The Independence Bowl and Texas Bowl are not options.
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